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Disillusioned Lost-Lamb
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Planning an Escape: Truth Triumphs Over Lies!
by 00DAD inoften during wt/book studies and/or public talks i would be following along and note little discrepancies and inconsistencies.
perhaps it was a scripture that didn't really support the point being asserted in the paragraph or maybe it was an illustration that sounded good but wasn't completely parallel or maybe it was a line of reasoning that wasn't as conclusive or solid as the speaker/elder/co/wt publication made it out to be.
or maybe it was the excessive use of weasel words like, "evidently," "perhaps," "must have" and so on.
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Mental Illness & Suicide In the Organization
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this topic has been discussed before ... i just wanted to put my two cents in.. i will start off by saying that of course mental illness exists outside of the organization.
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Disillusioned Lost-Lamb
Not to make light of anyone's troubles but I would like to send a message to all dubs and say, "there's a reason why you're not happy, think about it; what/who constantly tells you your not good enough, causes problems, monopolizes your time and leaves you feeling mentally, emotionally and physically exhausted? If you believe what the bible really says then you shouldn't be miserable, and I guarantee if you really honestly think about the above question(s) you will find that you, your family, your children, your job nor your home or possessions are the problem."
I know it wouldn't sink in with a large percentage, but it would flip a switch for a few.
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Mr Deity on a loving god and Hell
by cofty ineven as an evangelical i thought hell was an obscentiy.. ....
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Disillusioned Lost-Lamb
F**KIN' AWSOME!
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God's Perfect Creation
by MrFreeze inso, one of the main things that jw's teach is that when god first created everything, it was all perfect.
no flaws in his creation.
that is until you realize that the wt reasons that adam and even knew what death was because the animals died.
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Disillusioned Lost-Lamb
Good point.
The whole perfection thing doesn't make a lick of sense if you really think about it.
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Did Jesus ever use the name Jehovah?
by biometrics inwhile growing up as a jw this was a question i often wondered about: did jesus ever call his heavenly father by the name jehovah?
and if he did, why wasn't it recorded.. i know there's plenty of references such as john 17:6, 26 where it says "i have made your name manifest to the men ...".
however is there anywhere in the bible where jesus used the actual word jehovah?.
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Disillusioned Lost-Lamb
I think the bible is a pant load, but with that said let me ask you this, how many times do you call your Dad by his first name? When speaking to others about your father, do use his name or just say my Dad....?
Unless you need to, you probably don't use either one of your parent's names very often.
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Disillusioned Lost-Lamb
Hey ya gotta scare the living daylights out of them young if you expect to have a snowballs chance in hell of retaining them.
Loving submission = Scare 'em young and keep 'em living in fear/dread.
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One brother told me in the past not to worry about resolving any conflicts in the congregation, he told me to concentrate on my spirituality.
by Iamallcool inis he an asshole?.
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Disillusioned Lost-Lamb
In my experience the title of elderberry usually implies asshole, but maybe he was trying to warn you about getting too involved because he already knew nothing really gets resolved, it just gets silenced or sparlocked (kicked/thrown out like trash).
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The Curious Case Of My Servant. Job
by criticalwitness inthe bible account of job is interesting to me in a lot of ways.
one job is not apart of isreal so his family and lineage cant really be traced hes just like some folk hero and how did he find out about jehovah?
and have more faith than all his people?
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Disillusioned Lost-Lamb
The fairytale of Job proves nothing more than jaybooger is an asshole that thinks all humans are possessions and nothing more.
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Do you still say JEHOVAH when scared to chase away the demons?
by Greybeard ini was scared stiff of the demons all of my life growing up as a jw.
you know the stories.
i am way more open minded now that i have been out for 3 years or so.
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Disillusioned Lost-Lamb
No, once I realized that eeeevil deemunz weren't out to get me, or even real, I didn't need jaybooger to save me.
Just like Stevie Wonder sang, "When you believe in things that you don't understand, Then you suffer, Superstition ain't the way."
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It was never about God but acceptance from my dad
by Star tiger ini believe this was the reason i kept returning to the witnesses after being nearly a born in, my dad was an ex royal marine and was and is still my hero, what he said was right and in a good way most things i have followed have become good, but this witness thing i belive never made him truely happy.. it was when i was particulary unhappy, that i went on amazon and found an unbiased book crisis of conscious that i read, and with a sense of worry that i gave it to him, and thankfully all his previous attitudes have disappeared and now all the family are out of the truth!.
my only worry is that he still belives in the authority of the bible something that after numerous searches into the old testament and greek scritures i find even more unbeliveble, although i don't try to mich to dissuade him as now it's his personal religion!.
star tiger.
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Disillusioned Lost-Lamb
My Mom and Sister are not hero figures but I get your drift. I never really believed the bullshit but went along with it to please my family, I did everything to make THEM happy and now because of my desire to please them I'm stuck "in". I know I will eventually leave/fade but now is not the right time, however I finally admitted to myself that I needed to start living in a manner that makes me happy because what's the point in pleasing others when you're miserable doing it?